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Tuesday, February 19, 2008
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The most danger to our security in the United States are liberals. They have no backbone and want to give everything to people that don't want to earn it. It's OK to be a burden to the tax payer. Have fun, have sex, then commit murder to any unwanted child. Get out of Iraq no matter what happens to them. Bla bla bla bla bla
So you want change then vote for the liberals and finish chopping off the eagle's head.
what happened to the comments on sandhill cranes,,,,,,why start a post if you dont want comments....are you going to delete all comments that you dont agree with?
the majority of this country is republicans, not democracts.....but thank God that the majority of the country is liberal, and not conservative.....proof is the 3 candidates left for president....the country learned a great lesson from the 8 years of george w. bush......will be a long time before the conservatives are a majority again......conservatives may become a bad word, just like clan, redneck, separation, segregation, and poll tax
On the sand hill cranes post it must have been took off because someone started saying bad things about a certain elected official that is a no no on here....
Why is there no outrage about out rail road crossings! I can understand that they must upgrade their lines, but by leaving the crossings in such disrepair is a disgrace. I want to know who to call and give them a talking to!
Yes... no MONICA or other Interns... Trust me... Want to look at the condition of the country? Clinton, it takes a village? WOW... that worked well! It's the Village not the parents!!
Yes... no MONICA or other Interns... Trust me... Want to look at the condition of the country? Clinton, it takes a village? WOW... that worked well! It's the Village not the parents!!
if someone looked at the lifes of john mccain, george bush, and bill clinton before they were president,,,,,and looked at the fact without knowing the name of the person and without knowing what party they are with, bill linton wins the moral question....he didnt have a alcohol problem , didnt beat his wife, didnt leave wife and kids for weeks without them knowing where he was, didnt have an affair with a beer distributort's daughter, and his wife didnt get charged with diversion of controlled medication, theft, and have to enter drug treatment.....
8:17 Bill only smoked poontang cigars and chased all the women he came in contact with. But you are correct. He didn't leave his wife, even when he lied to the people of the US of A about his affairs. Yeah, he is a role modle alright.
Isn't anyone concerned for our safety with this incinerator moving in to Barnesville? Sounds like a good way for certain people to make lots of money at the expense of our health.
Greenpeace states: "Today, incinerators are sold under a variety of guises. Some of these include fluidised bed incinerators, thermal treatment plants or waste-to-energy systems."
Rachel's Democracy & Health News #863, July 13, 2006
INCINERATORS ARE IMPEDING THE TRANSITION TO SUSTAINABILITY
By Peter Montague http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_new_incinerators.060713.htm
Across the U.S. -- and, indeed, across the world -- waste incinerators are making a comeback. Why? Because there's a huge amount of money to be made. During the 1980s, every state in the U.S. was targeted for several waste incinerators -- "waste to energy" plants, as they were known at that time. (The incinerator industry has always called its machines something besides "incinerators.") These incinerators burned garbage or medical waste and they were filthy, dangerous, expensive, unreliable, materials-destroying, energy-wasting contraptions -- and citizen groups all across the country got organized and managed to stop more than 90% of the proposed incinerators. It was a huge victory and a convincing demonstration that sensible change can occur when a loose coalition of committed, organized citizens makes it happen.
There are basically two problems with incinerators -- no matter what name you may give them. First, they produce dangerous wastes in the form of gases and ash, often creating entirely new hazards, like dioxins and furans, that were not present in the raw waste.
Secondly -- and even more importantly -- incinerators destroy materials that must then be replaced. If I burn a piece of paper instead of recycling it, someone has to manufacture a new piece of paper from raw materials. This is tremendously wasteful because manufacturing one ton of paper creates 98 tons of waste products.[1,pg.51] On average, for every ton of products destroyed in an incinerator, 71 tons of waste must be created somewhere else to re- create those products -- mine wastes, forest wastes, transportation wastes, energy wastes, and so on.[2] ("Waste to energy" incinerators don't even make sense from an energy perspective. For every unit of energy recovered by one of these machines, three to 5 units of energy could have been saved by recycling the products instead of destroying them in an incinerator and then replacing them with new ones.
So why would anyone in their right mind want to build an incinerator? The answer is simple: money. Lots of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An incinerator costs anywhere from $100 million to $500 million to build. For argument's sake, let's say an incinerator costs $200 million. That money comes from the public treasury. Local governments do not often see such large bundles of money flowing their through budgets -- so an incinerator offers a unique opportunity for local politicians and their friends to take their cut, and it's perfectly legal. Bankers, accountants, lawyers, engineers, consultants, realtors and political "fixers" can all scoop off their small percentage. Even one tenth of one percent of $200 million is $200,000 dollars. So an incinerator project causes money to slosh around in the local economy in ways that no other public works project is ever likely to do. At election time, some of that money may kick back as campaign contributions to the officials who made the decision to incinerate local waste. All perfectly legal. But not good for democracy, human health, the natural environment, or the future.
People who are engaged on the front lines of an incinerator fight will want to get a copy of the new report from Greenaction and GAIA, "Incinerators in Disguise." (And they will also want see the earlier report from GAIA and the Institute for Local Self Reliance, Resources Up in Flames.)
THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST ABOUT MONEY AND DON'T GIVE A FLIP ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF LAMAR COUNTY
dont start talking about the trash burner, you will be wasteing time....the deal is done.....it will help....talk about something we can do something about, like politics......dont waste time on fairtax or incinderators, it wont help.....one is done and one is dead
mccain is gonna have trouble keeping the media from dragging up all the trash he has piled up in all the years of his political activities......he is not without faults and some are big ones....his history of affairs, his wifes drug use and theft, his close ties to lobbyists, his foul mouth, his angror, his involment with the saving and loan crisis in 1988, his being one of the Keating five, and his very short fuse......the republicans truely are goning to have to hold their nose to vote for him.....black may be looking better
Clinton disgraced the office of President, slapping the People of this country right in between the eyes. And all the LEFTIES stood up for him. Great morals people! Nice roll model for our kids!
8:57 who do you think you are? It will help? Yeah - the incinerator will help us all right - Help us all have cancer - it will put us all 6 feet under and there will be no need for anyone to promise to pay any property tax - - - everyone in lamar county will be deathly ill. While the power figures are running away with the money made - - -not caring at all about the citizens - only themselves They are willing to give us all cancer in order for them to make a buck.
HMMMMM. . . last time I checked Neither Johnny Poore, Paul Hester, nor Wayne Patterson were in any election that I've ever voted in - - - Because I sure as hell wouldn't have voted them in.
I don't trust ANY of them - - - and neither should you!!!
all this bad stuff happening in this county and all over the country wouldnt be happening if we could elect the moral republicans......oh no wait, we do have the republicans,,,sorry
i bet that if the new york times had run a negative article this morning about obama, Walter would have started a post about it and encouraged us to blog about it.....but since it is the great republican, he just ignores it
Liberals want to play Robinhood! They take from the rich and give to the poor.That's not being very moral if you ask me. Liberals also want to trample on our constitutional right's. Thats not very moral either.
No, thats not enough said! It sounds like we have trouble with both parties. You and I are just arguing over the less of two evil's. I'm going with the side that doesnt try to get all my money just so some crack head can live in a section eight house. I say we do what the Bible say's "If a man dont work, he dont eat".
32 comments:
The most danger to our security in the United States are liberals. They have no backbone and want to give everything to people that don't want to earn it. It's OK to be a burden to the tax payer. Have fun, have sex, then commit murder to any unwanted child. Get out of Iraq no matter what happens to them. Bla bla bla bla bla
So you want change then vote for the liberals and finish chopping off the eagle's head.
Let's get off politics for a second. Why were the comments on the Fred Crane post removed?
what happened to the comments on sandhill cranes,,,,,,why start a post if you dont want comments....are you going to delete all comments that you dont agree with?
the majority of this country is republicans, not democracts.....but thank God that the majority of the country is liberal, and not conservative.....proof is the 3 candidates left for president....the country learned a great lesson from the 8 years of george w. bush......will be a long time before the conservatives are a majority again......conservatives may become a bad word, just like clan, redneck, separation, segregation, and poll tax
On the sand hill cranes post it must have been took off because someone started saying bad things about a certain elected official that is a no no on here....
What public official are you talkin' about? Inquiring ex-Barnesvillians wanna know?
Democrats = Moral Decay
Look at the morals in America since Clinton was Pres!
have the morals improved in the george bush years.....a simple yes or no will be o k
Why is there no outrage about out rail road crossings! I can understand that they must upgrade their lines, but by leaving the crossings in such disrepair is a disgrace. I want to know who to call and give them a talking to!
Yes... no MONICA or other Interns... Trust me... Want to look at the condition of the country? Clinton, it takes a village? WOW... that worked well! It's the Village not the parents!!
Yes... no MONICA or other Interns... Trust me... Want to look at the condition of the country? Clinton, it takes a village? WOW... that worked well! It's the Village not the parents!!
senators and little boys. Air port tap dancing, Republicans, its Greek to me
if someone looked at the lifes of john mccain, george bush, and bill clinton before they were president,,,,,and looked at the fact without knowing the name of the person and without knowing what party they are with, bill linton wins the moral question....he didnt have a alcohol problem , didnt beat his wife, didnt leave wife and kids for weeks without them knowing where he was, didnt have an affair with a beer distributort's daughter, and his wife didnt get charged with diversion of controlled medication, theft, and have to enter drug treatment.....
8:17 Bill only smoked poontang cigars and chased all the women he came in contact with. But you are correct. He didn't leave his wife, even when he lied to the people of the US of A about his affairs. Yeah, he is a role modle alright.
Look into cocaine trafficking in Arkansas. I think it will change your mind. Ole' Bill has a lot of dead men's relatives pissed.
Isn't anyone concerned for our safety with this incinerator moving in to Barnesville? Sounds like a good way for certain people to make lots of money at the expense of our health.
Greenpeace states: "Today, incinerators are sold under a variety of guises. Some of these include fluidised bed incinerators, thermal treatment plants or waste-to-energy systems."
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/incineration/the-problem
Rachel's Democracy & Health News #863, July 13, 2006
INCINERATORS ARE IMPEDING THE TRANSITION TO SUSTAINABILITY
By Peter Montague
http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_new_incinerators.060713.htm
Across the U.S. -- and, indeed, across the world -- waste incinerators are making a comeback. Why? Because there's a huge amount of money to be made.
During the 1980s, every state in the U.S. was targeted for several waste incinerators -- "waste to energy" plants, as they were known at that time. (The incinerator industry has always called its machines something besides "incinerators.") These incinerators burned garbage or medical waste and they were filthy, dangerous, expensive, unreliable, materials-destroying, energy-wasting contraptions -- and citizen groups all across the country got organized and managed to stop more than 90% of the proposed incinerators. It was a huge victory and a convincing demonstration that sensible change can occur when a loose coalition of committed, organized citizens makes it happen.
There are basically two problems with incinerators -- no matter what name you may give them. First, they produce dangerous wastes in the form of gases and ash, often creating entirely new hazards, like dioxins and furans, that were not present in the raw waste.
Secondly -- and even more importantly -- incinerators destroy materials that must then be replaced. If I burn a piece of paper instead of recycling it, someone has to manufacture a new piece of paper from raw materials. This is tremendously wasteful because manufacturing one ton of paper creates 98 tons of waste products.[1,pg.51] On average, for every ton of products destroyed in an incinerator, 71 tons of waste must be created somewhere else to re- create those products -- mine wastes, forest wastes, transportation wastes, energy wastes, and so on.[2] ("Waste to energy" incinerators don't even make sense from an energy perspective. For every unit of energy recovered by one of these machines, three to 5 units of energy could have been saved by recycling the products instead of destroying them in an incinerator and then replacing them with new ones.
So why would anyone in their right mind want to build an incinerator? The answer is simple: money. Lots of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An incinerator costs anywhere from $100 million to $500 million to build. For argument's sake, let's say an incinerator costs $200 million. That money comes from the public treasury. Local governments do not often see such large bundles of money flowing their through budgets -- so an incinerator offers a unique opportunity for local politicians and their friends to take their cut, and it's perfectly legal. Bankers, accountants, lawyers, engineers, consultants, realtors and political "fixers" can all scoop off their small percentage. Even one tenth of one percent of $200 million is $200,000 dollars. So an incinerator project causes money to slosh around in the local economy in ways that no other public works project is ever likely to do. At election time, some of that money may kick back as campaign contributions to the officials who made the decision to incinerate local waste. All perfectly legal. But not good for democracy, human health, the natural environment, or the future.
People who are engaged on the front lines of an incinerator fight will want to get a copy of the new report from Greenaction and GAIA, "Incinerators in Disguise." (And they will also want see the earlier report from GAIA and the Institute for Local Self Reliance, Resources Up in Flames.)
THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST ABOUT MONEY AND DON'T GIVE A FLIP ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF LAMAR COUNTY
dont start talking about the trash burner, you will be wasteing time....the deal is done.....it will help....talk about something we can do something about, like politics......dont waste time on fairtax or incinderators, it wont help.....one is done and one is dead
mccain is gonna have trouble keeping the media from dragging up all the trash he has piled up in all the years of his political activities......he is not without faults and some are big ones....his history of affairs, his wifes drug use and theft, his close ties to lobbyists, his foul mouth, his angror, his involment with the saving and loan crisis in 1988, his being one of the Keating five, and his very short fuse......the republicans truely are goning to have to hold their nose to vote for him.....black may be looking better
Clinton disgraced the office of President, slapping the People of this country right in between the eyes. And all the LEFTIES stood up for him. Great morals people! Nice roll model for our kids!
8:57 who do you think you are? It will help? Yeah - the incinerator will help us all right - Help us all have cancer - it will put us all 6 feet under and there will be no need for anyone to promise to pay any property tax - - - everyone in lamar county will be deathly ill. While the power figures are running away with the money made - - -not caring at all about the citizens - only themselves
They are willing to give us all cancer in order for them to make a buck.
quit bitching! yall voted them in, yall continue to vote them in, so live with it. blame nobody but yourself!
HMMMMM. . . last time I checked Neither Johnny Poore, Paul Hester, nor Wayne Patterson were in any election that I've ever voted in - - - Because I sure as hell wouldn't have voted them in.
I don't trust ANY of them - - - and neither should you!!!
all this bad stuff happening in this county and all over the country wouldnt be happening if we could elect the moral republicans......oh no wait, we do have the republicans,,,sorry
i bet that if the new york times had run a negative article this morning about obama, Walter would have started a post about it and encouraged us to blog about it.....but since it is the great republican, he just ignores it
9:19...You're a great "roll" model too! That's hilarious.
it seems like over the last 8 years that the liberals are more moral than the republicans
Liberals want to play Robinhood! They take from the rich and give to the poor.That's not being very moral if you ask me. Liberals also want to trample on our constitutional right's. Thats not very moral either.
since 2000 there have bee 8 senators and/or representives arrested and charged with crimes.....6 republicans and 2 democracts......enough said
No, thats not enough said! It sounds like we have trouble with both parties. You and I are just arguing over the less of two evil's. I'm going with the side that doesnt try to get all my money just so some crack head can live in a section eight house. I say we do what the Bible say's "If a man dont work, he dont eat".
bible says do not kill.....but you think death pentaly is o k .. and you think it its o k to kill iraq people.....
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