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Thursday, July 24, 2008
minimum wage increased today...
from $5.85 per hour to $6.55.
good thing or bad thing?
did it impact your life or business significantly?
42 comments:
Anonymous
said...
I did not get a raise. Oh yes, I get paid for performance and sales. Not just for showing up and going through the motion of working.
647 is just another wimp making big comments hiding behind anonymous. Sound like complaining for having to work. If you dont like your job, get another one.
In general, I'm against the idea of minimum wage just because it means the government is meddling with the Free Market. Any time that happens, a red flag should go up for everybody.
Besides that, whenever you raise the minimum wage, the price of goods and services go up.
To keep prices the same, an owner would have to fire someone and make the other workers work harder.
The US has the greatest and most diverse economy that the world has ever seen. Its mind boggling when you think about it.
You can make money doing almost anything. Ironically, the greatest hindrance to making money is the government itself.
So, if you're in a minimum wage kind of job, I encourage you to be creative and find something (or create something) that pays better.
In response to 8:17 anon: At least the other supposed news guys in town knows that for anyone to know what in the world they are reporting about in their news they have to come to Walter's site to spread the word. Hey Williams or whatever your name is, just buy an ad in the Herald Gazette next week and publish your story there. Other than that, it is, as the big media says, a non-story.
Where I live the Minimum wage just went up to $7.75. It's a good thing and none of the prices have gone up at all. Lets face less than 1% of americans work for minimum wage. I does not effect the economy very much.
Also minimum wage is a good thing. Big Business can no longer be trusted to look after its employees. If you don't believe me ask all of the people who have had there pensions stolen in the last ten years.
6:47 said: I aint complaining about working. I put in 6 days a week at 12 hrs per day. I am trying to make a point that the gov't don't care if I make a minimum on my products that I sale each day at my store. If we are going to have minimum wages why not have minimum prices on what some one has to pay for something and get a commission. The gov't mandates that I pay my employees a base price but hell sometimes at the end of the day after manadated minimum wages, taxes, insurance, etc. I don't even make minimum wage and I am suppose to be the boss/owner living the american dream.
Somebody needs to tell Roach and his other local activist group to read the front page of today's AJC Metro section. A judge has ruled they must pay the city of Atlanta's legal bills for a lawsuit they brought against the city without merit for a parking deck.
In a thriving economy with plenty of jobs to pick a choose from there is no need for the establishment of a minimum wage. But we all know that ain't so anymore. Employers are exploting people because of the lack of jobs or the inability to go where there are jobs. Capitalism is a great system but when things gets slow it can get ugly. There is rapacious capitalism that exploites and illiminates anything competing so it can further explote the comsumer. We need minimum wage to be at a level so that one can atleast be able to afford the essentials to live and today that isn't so. I communte a total of 800 miles a week in order to have a job that pays what I think I'm worth. That is the extreme one must go to to live the American drean. It shouldn't be that way and at one time it wasn't.
Could someone give me a logical explanation as to how prices can remain fixed without the loss of income to an employee or the bottom line going untouched. I'm sure we all know that if the bottom line profit is rearranged up or down it will always result in shareholders loss/gain of capital or wages being cut/raised or expanded to new employees. The question above is asked with the idea of prices remaining fixed as they currently stand- minus outside forces like inflation- and more wages being demanded. Anyone? Bubba
It think it has gone from what something is actual worth to the most a market will actually bare. One is a fair deal the other is explotation. Inflation is a number that can easly be messages to mean most anything. The number I look for is the consumer price index. This tells you how much one must continue to increase their income each year to have the same buying power of the last one. If you don't have a wage increase of atleast 5% each year you are doing more for less and getting less for what you purchase.
Getting things done and getting things done well and quickly. You know, that good ol Protestant work ethic. If workers do that, then there's not much to fear; especially in the most diverse economy the world has ever seen.
If BIG business sees that they have to pay US workers $7 or whatever, and things aren't getting done. Then yeah - they're going to cross the boarder to Mexico the Philippines or where ever for 50 cents an hour.
As far as government screwing with the Free Market economy. Look at the inflation we've had. A major factor of that is the Federal Reserve creating imaginary money and loaning it back to us.
More dollars on the market means my dollars and your dollars are worth less. (Almost worthless.)
I have to agree with general ledger. I see prices going up everywhere. Increasing minimum wage may or may not be a significant increase in goods and services - but it will raise the price.
If you don't see prices going up - its because the boss fired somebody and made the others work harder. Its just simple math simple economics.
I think it was great idea. As a business owner I have never paid my employees minimum wage. We have a starting rate and you could up or down from there depending on your performance. But I guess it would really depend on the line of work you are in....
Very interesting twist! You are a biz owner and are in favor of the minimum wage and you pay your employees higher than the minimum wage.
You did not specify your industry. I see 2 interesting points here.
1. You support minimum wage because you see that as a way for the government to put pressure on your competition who does pay minimum wage to your employees.
Yes that opens up another can of worms of well maybe the service or products you produce is better quality. Or maybe your competition isn't min wage type of a company. And that are many variables.
The point is, many times businesses use government as a tool like this to squash competition. The Free Market suffers. You see this with Big Business cause they can afford to lobby Congress more than small biz owners.
2. Sure you might not be affected directly by this. But suppose that your business buys goods and services from a company that pays the minimum wage to their employees. If so, then you'll have to pay more, then some how you'll have to compensate by either raising your prices, taking less profits, or lowering wages, or something else.
Here's my point 1 again. Man I really should proof read....
1. You support minimum wage because you see that as a way for the government to put pressure on your competition, who does pay minimum wage to their employees.
Ye,s that opens up another can of worms. Maybe the service or products you produce are better quality. Or maybe your competition isn't a minimum wage type of a company. Sure, there are many variables.
The point is, many times businesses use government as a tool like this to squash competition. The Free Market suffers. You see this with Big Business cause they can afford to lobby Congress more than small biz owners.
With out government influence in the business world we would still have share cropping, company stores, and hardly any middle class what so ever. Poor people would not have the menes to higher education.
Yes we do need the government to step in and over see businesses. Greedy people can not be expected to do the right thing to protect there employees. Some one has to protect the workers.
Im beginning to wonder if the rummors are true?!!!! I dont know if yall are just playing around or trying to get something started but I for one am sick of hearing about Dane...if you are just trying to be funny, please stop before this gets crude.
The immediate effect of the minimum wage increase is McDonald's raised the prices on their dollar menu. A sweet tea and double cheeseburger is no longer $2.14 but now $2.41.
the only people against the minimal wage increasing are the ones making much more than the minimal wage......some people dont want others to get ahead.....some people would rather have $100 if the rest of the people only have $25, than have all the people have $200........when dane was growing up, a good ole country beating was something you gave yourself in the privacy of your own home, late at night, with a magazine off of the top shelf of the closet way behind the clothes
Dane not excist he no do nothing to anybody. He no firefighter.He no EMS. He no Police. He no pilot. He no mayor. He no sheriff. He nothing at all. He no beeper.He no flashing lights. He no radio.He not importent. HA HA HA
Minimum wage is the only positive action for the low income individual. It's the government's secret back door into corporate pockets. Not only that, it allows them tp rob more fom the poor. But if taxes are bad, if a democrap is elected, taxes will go up. Even on the poor. Sorry folks, that's the lawyer mental attitude. Start at the bottom and rob your way up as high as possible until you get to the people who can afford to fight back. Or about 95% of the population.
Ask Joe Edwards or some of the banking wizards in this town about the relationship of currency in circulation to the overall value of the dollar.
Since the orgy of lending began, the presses haven't stopped rolling.
Ask him.
Cheap Chinese imports helped to mask the problem for a while but eventually the chickens came home to roost. Now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Again, ask him.
The Fed, which isn't really 'federal" at all, stopped publishing the M3 figures about a year ago so the public can't see the facts laid bare. M3 used to represent the amount of currency in circulation.
Maybe even Waldo can help us here.
Where's it gonna end? Once folks really understand that a dollar is a worthless piece of paper and that we've been duped, we'll all take a good old country beating.
This is where the government gets us when they export all our jobs. This whole mess is about to collapse. It was only propped up by handing money out when money was not deserved.
I pay 15 year olds more than minimum wage to mow my lawn, it sure doesn't affect me. Those who hire illegals, like the golf course owners, will bitch and complain. Those are the same people who support other business ventures of the government like the IDA.
42 comments:
I did not get a raise. Oh yes, I get paid for performance and sales. Not just for showing up and going through the motion of working.
Someone should give you a good ole country beatin' for that statement.
Why do they complain about having to pay minimum wage?
Because they never hadto live on it.
I'm not crying, it;s just the truth.
647 is just another wimp making big comments hiding behind anonymous. Sound like complaining for having to work. If you dont like your job, get another one.
In general, I'm against the idea of minimum wage just because it means the government is meddling with the Free Market. Any time that happens, a red flag should go up for everybody.
Besides that, whenever you raise the minimum wage, the price of goods and services go up.
To keep prices the same, an owner would have to fire someone and make the other workers work harder.
The US has the greatest and most diverse economy that the world has ever seen. Its mind boggling when you think about it.
You can make money doing almost anything. Ironically, the greatest hindrance to making money is the government itself.
So, if you're in a minimum wage kind of job, I encourage you to be creative and find something (or create something) that pays better.
In response to 8:17 anon: At least the other supposed news guys in town knows that for anyone to know what in the world they are reporting about in their news they have to come to Walter's site to spread the word. Hey Williams or whatever your name is, just buy an ad in the Herald Gazette next week and publish your story there. Other than that, it is, as the big media says, a non-story.
Where I live the Minimum wage just went up to $7.75. It's a good thing and none of the prices have gone up at all. Lets face less than 1% of americans work for minimum wage. I does not effect the economy very much.
Also minimum wage is a good thing. Big Business can no longer be trusted to look after its employees. If you don't believe me ask all of the people who have had there pensions stolen in the last ten years.
6:47 said: I aint complaining about working. I put in 6 days a week at 12 hrs per day. I am trying to make a point that the gov't don't care if I make a minimum on my products that I sale each day at my store. If we are going to have minimum wages why not have minimum prices on what some one has to pay for something and get a commission. The gov't mandates that I pay my employees a base price but hell sometimes at the end of the day after manadated minimum wages, taxes, insurance, etc. I don't even make minimum wage and I am suppose to be the boss/owner living the american dream.
Anonymous complaining about anonymous what say you 8:37.
Somebody needs to tell Roach and his other local activist group to read the front page of today's AJC Metro section. A judge has ruled they must pay the city of Atlanta's legal bills for a lawsuit they brought against the city without merit for a parking deck.
In a thriving economy with plenty of jobs to pick a choose from there is no need for the establishment of a minimum wage. But we all know that ain't so anymore. Employers are exploting people because of the lack of jobs or the inability to go where there are jobs. Capitalism is a great system but when things gets slow it can get ugly. There is rapacious capitalism that exploites and illiminates anything competing so it can further explote the comsumer. We need minimum wage to be at a level so that one can atleast be able to afford the essentials to live and today that isn't so. I communte a total of 800 miles a week in order to have a job that pays what I think I'm worth. That is the extreme one must go to to live the American drean. It shouldn't be that way and at one time it wasn't.
Sure wish some one would give me a 12% raise.
dane works for nothing just satisfaction only
If you want a 12% raise then go and look for another job.
In response to 10:32, I'm suprised that you haven't noticed any inflation in your area. Gas prices, food have gone up nationally.
If you can't trust Big Business, are you implying that you can trust Big Government?
Could someone give me a logical explanation as to how prices can remain fixed without the loss of income to an employee or the bottom line going untouched.
I'm sure we all know that if the bottom line profit is rearranged up or down it will always result in shareholders loss/gain of capital or wages being cut/raised or expanded to new employees.
The question above is asked with the idea of prices remaining fixed as they currently stand- minus outside forces like inflation- and more wages being demanded.
Anyone?
Bubba
It think it has gone from what something is actual worth to the most a market will actually bare.
One is a fair deal the other is explotation. Inflation is a number that can easly be messages to mean most anything. The number I look for is the consumer price index. This tells you how much one must continue to increase their income each year to have the same buying power of the last one.
If you don't have a wage increase of atleast 5% each year you are doing more for less and getting less for what you purchase.
Anon 10:32 and all who support a minimum wage:
It comes down to this:
Getting things done and getting things done well and quickly. You know, that good ol Protestant work ethic. If workers do that, then there's not much to fear; especially in the most diverse economy the world has ever seen.
If BIG business sees that they have to pay US workers $7 or whatever, and things aren't getting done. Then yeah - they're going to cross the boarder to Mexico the Philippines or where ever for 50 cents an hour.
As far as government screwing with the Free Market economy. Look at the inflation we've had. A major factor of that is the Federal Reserve creating imaginary money and loaning it back to us.
More dollars on the market means my dollars and your dollars are worth less. (Almost worthless.)
I have to agree with general ledger. I see prices going up everywhere. Increasing minimum wage may or may not be a significant increase in goods and services - but it will raise the price.
If you don't see prices going up - its because the boss fired somebody and made the others work harder. Its just simple math simple economics.
My 2 cents. Thanks
I think it was great idea. As a business owner I have never paid my employees minimum wage. We have a starting rate and you could up or down from there depending on your performance. But I guess it would really depend on the line of work you are in....
To: Sgt. Douglas, Pvt. Chris, EMT. Dustin, EMTP. Chris and EMTP. Tony,
Two firefighters and 3 EMS heroes, who save a man at Jordan Forest Products, He has broken leg. Thank you firefighters and paramedics.
From: Jordan Forest Products
Anon 2:14,
Very interesting twist! You are a biz owner and are in favor of the minimum wage and you pay your employees higher than the minimum wage.
You did not specify your industry. I see 2 interesting points here.
1. You support minimum wage because you see that as a way for the government to put pressure on your competition who does pay minimum wage to your employees.
Yes that opens up another can of worms of well maybe the service or products you produce is better quality. Or maybe your competition isn't min wage type of a company. And that are many variables.
The point is, many times businesses use government as a tool like this to squash competition. The Free Market suffers. You see this with Big Business cause they can afford to lobby Congress more than small biz owners.
2. Sure you might not be affected directly by this. But suppose that your business buys goods and services from a company that pays the minimum wage to their employees. If so, then you'll have to pay more, then some how you'll have to compensate by either raising your prices, taking less profits, or lowering wages, or something else.
Basically folks somethings got to give.
Here's my point 1 again. Man I really should proof read....
1. You support minimum wage because you see that as a way for the government to put pressure on your competition, who does pay minimum wage to their employees.
Ye,s that opens up another can of worms. Maybe the service or products you produce are better quality. Or maybe your competition isn't a minimum wage type of a company. Sure, there are many variables.
The point is, many times businesses use government as a tool like this to squash competition. The Free Market suffers. You see this with Big Business cause they can afford to lobby Congress more than small biz owners.
ok, thanks
wdm - welly dum moron
With out government influence in the business world we would still have share cropping, company stores, and hardly any middle class what so ever. Poor people would not have the menes to higher education.
Yes we do need the government to step in and over see businesses. Greedy people can not be expected to do the right thing to protect there employees. Some one has to protect the workers.
I rake Dane's leaves and he dont pay me but $2.00/hr and I love the hell out it!
I'm pissed....I pay Dane $40 per hour just to sit in his swing and listen to his wisdom.
i cant beleave you would except money fro the great one. the pleasure alone should be pay
shame on you. all that dane does for this community and you except money
Im beginning to wonder if the rummors are true?!!!! I dont know if yall are just playing around or trying to get something started but I for one am sick of hearing about Dane...if you are just trying to be funny, please stop before this gets crude.
WDM needs a good ole county beating. Oh wait. Someone already must have knocked his brains out.
The immediate effect of the minimum wage increase is McDonald's raised the prices on their dollar menu. A sweet tea and double cheeseburger is no longer $2.14 but now $2.41.
the only people against the minimal wage increasing are the ones making much more than the minimal wage......some people dont want others to get ahead.....some people would rather have $100 if the rest of the people only have $25, than have all the people have $200........when dane was growing up, a good ole country beating was something you gave yourself in the privacy of your own home, late at night, with a magazine off of the top shelf of the closet way behind the clothes
Quit eating that crap WDM...It'll make you die.
How crude are you planning to be 7:54 I must warn dane's wrath can be worse than HELL!
Dane not excist he no do nothing to anybody. He no firefighter.He no EMS. He no Police. He no pilot. He no mayor. He no sheriff. He nothing at all. He no beeper.He no flashing lights. He no radio.He not importent. HA HA HA
Minimum wage is the only positive action for the low income individual. It's the government's secret back door into corporate pockets. Not only that, it allows them tp rob more fom the poor. But if taxes are bad, if a democrap is elected, taxes will go up. Even on the poor. Sorry folks, that's the lawyer mental attitude. Start at the bottom and rob your way up as high as possible until you get to the people who can afford to fight back. Or about 95% of the population.
Ask Joe Edwards or some of the banking wizards in this town about the relationship of currency in circulation to the overall value of the dollar.
Since the orgy of lending began, the presses haven't stopped rolling.
Ask him.
Cheap Chinese imports helped to mask the problem for a while but eventually the chickens came home to roost. Now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Again, ask him.
The Fed, which isn't really 'federal" at all, stopped publishing the M3 figures about a year ago so the public can't see the facts laid bare. M3 used to represent the amount of currency in circulation.
Maybe even Waldo can help us here.
Where's it gonna end? Once folks really understand that a dollar is a worthless piece of paper and that we've been duped, we'll all take a good old country beating.
Thank God people can't export lawn mowing.
This is where the government gets us when they export all our jobs. This whole mess is about to collapse. It was only propped up by handing money out when money was not deserved.
I pay 15 year olds more than minimum wage to mow my lawn, it sure doesn't affect me. Those who hire illegals, like the golf course owners, will bitch and complain. Those are the same people who support other business ventures of the government like the IDA.
WDM has cheese in his brain.
Uh-oh. I must have made a first grader at the elementary school mad at me.
wdm....yeah, but you turned on some gay dude named Chris,so you cant please everyone.
lawn mowen has been exported look at the wet backs doing it
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