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Tuesday, September 25, 2007
united autoworkers strike...
discuss.
43 comments:
Anonymous
said...
its union mentality,the company is in money trouble and these greedy union slobs go on strike,GM should just close all the plants and ship the work over seas
Aman to that,i'v never meet as sorry a worker as when i meet a group of union bums,and you wonder why american cars cost so much and arn't worth a damn
I find it interesting that Toyota and Honda (non-union)stand more for American ideals such as personal freedoms, individual responsibility, and free market enterprise than do the "American" ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. I heard on the radio that the avg worker at GM makes somewhere around 80K/year with 5 weeks vacation. As long as these companies are unionized, I will not buy another car from them. I would rather support a japanese company that plays by capitalist rules, than an american company that has been hi-jacked by communist unions. You buy American. I am going for quality, value, and workmanship.
It is so easy to bash unions, but what about the CEOs who make millions while their companies and stoch holders take a bath? Companies like GM made promises to their workers and now they want out. A plague on both their houses.
I doubt you would think that way if you were losing your pension after having worked and contributed to it for 30 years. As long as there are robber barons, and they still abound, you will need unions.
It's strange that companies like Carters is doing great and is profitable. You know why? Keeping fellow humans poor. Just research how much money is taken from the worker in pay and benefits, then add up CEO bonuses and stockholder returns. Go ahead bash the union. We can't even buy a safe toy for our children. I promise you the union didn't do that!!!!!!!!!
You know why CEOs and stock-holders make more money than you? They have more skills, more drive, and take more chances than you. And whoever said pensions are in jeopardy without unions, WAKEUP, UNIONS are stealing and skimming from your money daily and are in trouble constantly for this type of thing. Join the real world like the rest of us. In the real world your job is only guaranteed as long as you can produce what you promised you can in the beginning. Your employer has every right to let you go if he/she sees fit and if you do a great job they will think twice before they do. But, if they do anyways, you should be responsible enough to have skills or education to put you right back in the work force. UNIONS have become what they set out to destroy and situations like this prove my point. The days of relentless toil for meager pay are gone only those who choose to do the least as possible to get by are left with this life. Nowadays hard work is greatly rewarded because it is rare. Back that up with a willingness to learn and you have the keys to success. Unions = GM collapse. Another job well done. I love the Chevy trucks but I'm also a mechanic that commutes 50 miles a day, sooooo.... I own 2 Toyotas :(
I don't have anything against unions, but I buy products based on quality & price. Unions drive prices up due to high wages & drive quality down by not rewarding workers based on performance.
Of course, if GM or Ford would design a quality product instead pieces of junk, I might pay a slightly higher price.
Give me a brake! Some of these guys make 50k a year + just to stand on a line and put lugnuts on. Thats why a 10k truck costs 40k. 10k for the truck 30k for the labor!.......The unions have always helped people, The Teamsters union i think more than anybody. but we are not talking about interstate transit...n.a.f.t.a , c.a.f.t.a. etc. this is who you need to blame cause you cant find a good job. AMERICA has become a consumer nation. We buy every thing and make nothing.Look at the things you pic up every day see how many say made in U.S.A. and how many say made in china? And make no mistake it is now as it has always been ( RED COMMUNIST CHINA )They have not changed they are still communist there agenda is the same now as it has always been.....WORLD DOMINATION! if we do not learn from history we are DOOMED TO RELIVE IT ! GOD BLESS AMERICA!
9:14 PM the reason they are poor is because they are stupid its not Carters fault that they would rather sit on their fat as# and drink their 6 packs and smoke their salem lights watching "DALE" go around in circles on some race track instead of getting an education union workers are uneducated bums that expect to get high pay for low work --ship all the jobs over seas and watch profits go up
Most of the people who say they got to their position of power and wealth because of their greater drive and ambition, actually got there as members of the lucky sperm club.
9:43 do you have a study or statistics that show that "most" of them inherited their wealth, or are you buying into the democrat party's class warfare propaganda that is used as their basis for their communist wealth "re-distribution" plans?
By labeling their success as luck, it allows you to avoid taking responsibility for your lack of success. You aren't rich because you aren't lucky, not because you made poor choices and didn't work smart and hard.
At least I am not suffering from dyslexia, and am capable of more than an ad hominem attack on the level of na-na-ny boo-boo.
To 11:10, actually I am reasonably successful and vote Republican more often than not. Study after study has shown that the Horatio Alger story is largely myth. You can begin with Christopher Jencks' study that shows that the single greatest predictor of success in school is family income, to studies that show that most leaders in business beginning with the Captains of Industry in the 19th century were not rags to riches stories.
Family income is a link to success in school because of the goals set for the children of wealthy families. Wealthy people usually have wealthy offspring because of the values they inherit, not the money. This link could also be contributed to family STABILITY. Wealthy parents more often than not have their ducks in a row, their eyes wide open for opportunity, and a back up plan for lifes unexpected twists and turns. I don't have the study on this but I have heard and read countless times about children of stable families (two loving providing parents that choose to argue in the other room instead of in front of the kids and choose to be envolved in their kids lives) having a better chance at life all the way around. This is a plan for success for any child regardless of financial background. The "blame the system" and "loathe the wealthy" way of life has been more of a failure for children than any other idea handed down.
Also, regardless if wealth is inherited or personaly earned somebody along the way worked hard for it and somebody is enjoying it right now in this "class" free America. Why not try to join them? To envy the wealthy only insures that you will never be wealthy. LSM
Did your reasonable sucess come from luck or hard work?
Thank you for your answer and backing your stance with some facts. I will back my stance with some facts also. You imply that "most" inherited their wealth. Though a study done by the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis in 1997 stated this following factoid: ""Most of the rich are entrepreneurs, and most have earned their wealth. Inheritance accounts for about 8 percent of the net worth of these households in the aggregate. More than half have never inherited anything, and inherited wealth is less than 10 percent of total wealth for more than two-thirds of those who have." (Study, at page 6)
"The Rich and the Poor: Demographics of the U.S. Wealth Distribution" John C. Weicher
The quoted statistics from that particular study hardly makes up "most" of the population of the wealthy. These people aren't inheriting wealth, grades in school, or their positions of power. They are inheriting the same values, morals, and work ethics that made their parents successful people. So in that regard, they are lucky to have parents who understand the importance of such attributes, but in this day in age, how many people don't understand their importance?
Like most people, it came from both. I grew up in a middle class family that valued education, hard work, and honesty and I realize how lucky that makes me. We are probasbly in agreement about many things. Still there is an unfortunate tendency among those who are successful to give themselves far too much credit.
I am sure we are in agreeance on many things. I realize that I was lucky enough to grow up around successful people that provided excellent guidance. However, I, like the GM CEO's, will not de-value myself and accept less than the market driven salary for my services because of my background, just as I wouldn't expect someone to ask for a higher salary if they overcame the obstacle of coming from a poor family. Case in point, where you came from isn't as important as the services you provide for your salary.
I believe if anyone at GM is earning their salary, it is the CEO and upper management. His salary is determined upon completely capitalist principles. If he can make more somewher else, he leaves. If he doesn't perform, the board of directors fires him. If they don't, the shareholders fire the board of directors. Nowhere in that formula does anyone worry about his well-being, his health insurance, his retirement, etc. The only factor considered is if he is meeting expectations for what the company is paying.
I have no desire to be rich. I have known many many very wealthy people. They all share one thing in common. Greed! Seems like they can never get enough and they will do about any thing to get more.
I just don't want to be a person like that. My goal is just being comfortable.
do you think we should eliminate all unions.....firefighters, police, teachers, state employees, electrians, carpenters, and etc......because if we eliminate all unions, then all those jobs will be filled immediately with mexicans.....
The middle class is the backbone of the U.S. My husband is union so I speak with some true knowledge of union. The union is not a money hungry machine like some people think. Granted the union has had dark moments, but those are minimal when one thinks of the good that has come from unions. Even those of you who hate unions benefit everyday you work in some form or fashion and you are too cheap and cowardly to stand up with fellow workers because deep down you are afraid of losing you livelihood and that is the true power of you bosses. They can ruin your life at any whim that pleases them. You could be fired because the new supervisor just doesn't like you. You may be an ace worker, but that won't help you keep your job. Without the unions, none of us would have the workplace we have today. What is happening is a reversal in history. As a working class we have become intimindated by "the boss and our class is shrinking by the minute." I feel what we have here is a moral issue versus "survival of the fittest." What good is any product that can only be profitable based on the poverty of others??? LJM it is easy for you to be so judgemental of families that struggle to survive. Does it make you feel better that the only way for you to get your China made products comes at the expense of another person both in the US and China? You have a cold heart and it is people like you that hurt our country. I don't think you have ever worked in a union shop or you would not be speaking so ill of the union. You are an outsider who doesn't realize that you are making basically a fool of yourself because you don't speak from experience and knowledge. You are just repeating what big business wants you to think. You my friend are a good puppet without an original thought!!!!! PBB
unions are like minimum wage, they force an employer to pay an employee so much they half to raise the price of there product. raise minimum wage to $20 an hour you get a $18.50 happy meal.give the uaw a raise you get a 40k pu truck worth 15k. And those of us who choose not to follow the union, those of us that can make our money without a union are punished with outrageous prices on union products!
When we let our jobs leave this country, we messed up the balance of earnings verses expenditure. Unions aren't the problem, the government, and our own greed with wanting more "stuff" is why we are going through this econmonic adjustment. A new American Economy will exist very different from the economy of our ancestors. Our working environment will change as well. Then our quality of life will change. PBB
Surley you gest. No one worries about his pension, his health care? Of course they do which is why he has bonuses, defered compensation arrangements, stock options and a host of other perks. You read again and again about CEO's whose companies are losing money and whose stock value is in the toilet being given millions of dollars in severence pay and back dated stock options. Those who have the gold make the rules.
PBB, you say I am a coward because i don't belong to a union. I say standing on my own two feet and making rational, independent decisions about the value and worth of my skill set is anything but cowardly. If I am not getting paid enough, I will find another job. If I don't do what I am paid to do, I will be replaced. I don't send the lynch mob to bat for me to hold the company hostage and force them to pay more than I am worth.
I think the unions had their place when they were formed, but have outworn their welcome and are now doing more harm than good. The demands they are making will eventually put GM out of business. A company cannot guarantee job security. If there is a competitive edge to be taken, whether with automation or foreign labor, the company owes it to its stockholders to take full advantage.
The unions still seem to hold the misconception that the jobs belong to the employees. The job belongs to the employer to sell to whomever will do the best job for the cheapest price. When a union artificially sets a minimum amount of compensation on the labor of its members, it creates a shortage of labor and leads to inflation, which is robbing us all of our wealth.
7:09, obviously the CEO's do deserve their salaries for what they do. If they didn't, the board of directors wouldn't approve them.
By saying noone worried about it, I didn't mean a CEO doesn't receive these benefits. I meant to say that when it comes time to fire them, no moral factors play a role, as it should be with all employees. It was worded badly. Sorry.
after reading some of these post no wonder the real world has passed barnesville and lamar county by,the mentality of the work force here just makes you want to puke,keep that union state of mind and thought process and maybe a factory or plant will locate here some day and you can get a job on the 3rd shift so you and your union pals can sit around drunk all day smoking your marlboro's talking about "if dale was still alive we'd all be better off" and how the people that busted their butts and got an education worked hard and stayed away from the booze long enough to make it in life are just that way because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouths
Honey, please don't try and tell me how grand the unions are. I too have first hand knowledge of how they operate. The union was always like a cuss word in my family. Not only were my grandparents coal miners but my daddy owned is own crane business in Florida and he would have to bring a big stick with him just to protect himself against the union. For years the unions followed him on different jobs trying to unionize him, he could not tell you how often he was picketed. My parents were part of the movement for the “Right to Work” in Florida. They said the only real protection they had was the Small Business Association.
One of his friends owned another crane business in town and the union guys overturned his crane, when he went back to get the crane, they told him he could not get the crane until the union guys picked it up….Dad’s friend stuck a .45 in the front of his pants and went right in and got his crane. After that they kind of avoided him for the most part.
I have always heard about when he worked with other union crane companies, they always reminded me of those jokes...How many Pollocks does it take to screw in a light bulb? My daddy would tell me about how many people it took to do the same job he did all by himself. Unions would have one man that drove the crane, another man would set it up for work, if something went wrong it took another man to make repairs, and don’t forget all thug bosses they had working behind “the union”. They would show up 2-3 hours late on the job and were proud of it.
One job he went on the contractor asked one of the union guys to ask the union operator to swing over a certain direction. The guy told him “It’s not my job”
Unions were responsible for putting the A&P Grocery store chain out of business, they chose to close their doors than to go union and let’s not all forget the Publix in Jonesboro!
Union jobs are one step up from welfare, but they at least try and show up to do a little bit of work.
What I am stressing is the RIGHT TO WORK, and unions do not give a person the right to work. If they had their way there would be no small businesses, we would all be “unionized” which to me sounds awfully lot like socialism/communism.
If everyone would like to see a great example of how unions operate, just look at our wonderful school systems! (What a Joke)
Communisum and socialism start with things like (FREE HEALTH CARE) there is no sutch thing! People want the gov. to give them every thing,free health care,free school,free school supplys,free school food,for the poor is a good thing. But now a daze you got women who have 3 or 4 children they cant even controll mutch less pay for and they blame the gov., the school,the teachers, and society in general because they wont raise there basturd children for them....... Why is crime going up?
43 comments:
its union mentality,the company is in money trouble and these greedy union slobs go on strike,GM should just close all the plants and ship the work over seas
unions have out-lived their purpose.
POWP
Aman to that,i'v never meet as sorry a worker as when i meet a group of union bums,and you wonder why american cars cost so much and arn't worth a damn
yep! just look at the ford plant
I find it interesting that Toyota and Honda (non-union)stand more for American ideals such as personal freedoms, individual responsibility, and free market enterprise than do the "American" ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. I heard on the radio that the avg worker at GM makes somewhere around 80K/year with 5 weeks vacation. As long as these companies are unionized, I will not buy another car from them. I would rather support a japanese company that plays by capitalist rules, than an american company that has been hi-jacked by communist unions. You buy American. I am going for quality, value, and workmanship.
http://www.uaw.org/
It is so easy to bash unions, but what about the CEOs who make millions while their companies and stoch holders take a bath? Companies like GM made promises to their workers and now they want out. A plague on both their houses.
Yeah, working at a paradise like Aldora is SO much better without a pesky union to back you up.
Worked in both union shops and non union. Like everything else, unions have problems, but it is much better to have them behind you then not.
There was a time and place for unions, but not today!!
To 4:30:
I doubt you would think that way if you were losing your pension after having worked and contributed to it for 30 years. As long as there are robber barons, and they still abound, you will need unions.
It's strange that companies like Carters is doing great and is profitable. You know why? Keeping fellow humans poor. Just research how much money is taken from the worker in pay and benefits, then add up CEO bonuses and stockholder returns. Go ahead bash the union. We can't even buy a safe toy for our children. I promise you the union didn't do that!!!!!!!!!
You know why CEOs and stock-holders make more money than you?
They have more skills, more drive, and take more chances than you.
And whoever said pensions are in jeopardy without unions, WAKEUP, UNIONS are stealing and skimming from your money daily and are in trouble constantly for this type of thing.
Join the real world like the rest of us.
In the real world your job is only guaranteed as long as you can produce what you promised you can in the beginning.
Your employer has every right to let you go if he/she sees fit and if you do a great job they will think twice before they do. But, if they do anyways, you should be responsible enough to have skills or education to put you right back in the work force.
UNIONS have become what they set out to destroy and situations like this prove my point.
The days of relentless toil for meager pay are gone only those who choose to do the least as possible to get by are left with this life.
Nowadays hard work is greatly rewarded because it is rare.
Back that up with a willingness to learn and you have the keys to success.
Unions = GM collapse.
Another job well done.
I love the Chevy trucks but I'm also a mechanic that commutes 50 miles a day, sooooo.... I own 2 Toyotas :(
LSM
I don't have anything against unions, but I buy products based on quality & price. Unions drive prices up due to high wages & drive quality down by not rewarding workers based on performance.
Of course, if GM or Ford would design a quality product instead pieces of junk, I might pay a slightly higher price.
Give me a brake! Some of these guys make 50k a year + just to stand on a line and put lugnuts on. Thats why a 10k truck costs 40k. 10k for the truck 30k for the labor!.......The unions have always helped people, The Teamsters union i think more than anybody. but we are not talking about interstate transit...n.a.f.t.a , c.a.f.t.a. etc. this is who you need to blame cause you cant find a good job. AMERICA has become a consumer nation. We buy every thing and make nothing.Look at the things you pic up every day see how many say made in U.S.A. and how many say made in china? And make no mistake it is now as it has always been ( RED COMMUNIST CHINA )They have not changed they are still communist there agenda is the same now as it has always been.....WORLD DOMINATION! if we do not learn from history we are DOOMED TO RELIVE IT ! GOD BLESS AMERICA!
I guess the gas prices are high because of unions by listening to all the idiot union bashers
union = lazy slabs
9:14 PM the reason they are poor is because they are stupid its not Carters fault that they would rather sit on their fat as# and drink their 6 packs and smoke their salem lights watching "DALE" go around in circles on some race track instead of getting an education union workers are uneducated bums that expect to get high pay for low work --ship all the jobs over seas and watch profits go up
LSM:
Most of the people who say they got to their position of power and wealth because of their greater drive and ambition, actually got there as members of the lucky sperm club.
9:34 you are a looser in life arn't you? my guess is you cant keep a job because its allways somebody elses fault
9:43 do you have a study or statistics that show that "most" of them inherited their wealth, or are you buying into the democrat party's class warfare propaganda that is used as their basis for their communist wealth "re-distribution" plans?
By labeling their success as luck, it allows you to avoid taking responsibility for your lack of success. You aren't rich because you aren't lucky, not because you made poor choices and didn't work smart and hard.
10:31:
At least I am not suffering from dyslexia, and am capable of more than an ad hominem attack on the level of na-na-ny boo-boo.
To 11:10, actually I am reasonably successful and vote Republican more often than not. Study after study has shown that the Horatio Alger story is largely myth. You can begin with Christopher Jencks' study that shows that the single greatest predictor of success in school is family income, to studies that show that most leaders in business beginning with the Captains of Industry in the 19th century were not rags to riches stories.
Family income is a link to success in school because of the goals set for the children of wealthy families. Wealthy people usually have wealthy offspring because of the values they inherit, not the money.
This link could also be contributed to family STABILITY.
Wealthy parents more often than not have their ducks in a row, their eyes wide open for opportunity, and a back up plan for lifes unexpected twists and turns.
I don't have the study on this but I have heard and read countless times about children of stable families (two loving providing parents that choose to argue in the other room instead of in front of the kids and choose to be envolved in their kids lives) having a better chance at life all the way around. This is a plan for success for any child regardless of financial background.
The "blame the system" and "loathe the wealthy" way of life has been more of a failure for children than any other idea handed down.
Also, regardless if wealth is inherited or personaly earned somebody along the way worked hard for it and somebody is enjoying it right now in this "class" free America.
Why not try to join them?
To envy the wealthy only insures that you will never be wealthy.
LSM
Did your reasonable sucess come from luck or hard work?
Thank you for your answer and backing your stance with some facts. I will back my stance with some facts also. You imply that "most" inherited their wealth. Though a study done by the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis in 1997 stated this following factoid:
""Most of the rich are entrepreneurs, and most have earned their wealth. Inheritance accounts for about 8 percent of the net worth of these households in the aggregate. More than half have never inherited anything, and inherited wealth is less than 10 percent of total wealth for
more than two-thirds of those who have." (Study, at page 6)
"The Rich and the Poor: Demographics of the U.S. Wealth Distribution" John C. Weicher
The quoted statistics from that particular study hardly makes up "most" of the population of the wealthy. These people aren't inheriting wealth, grades in school, or their positions of power. They are inheriting the same values, morals, and work ethics that made their parents successful people. So in that regard, they are lucky to have parents who understand the importance of such attributes, but in this day in age, how many people don't understand their importance?
Previous Anonymous
Well said LSM. I had not read your post when I wrote mine. Only when I posted did yours come up. Sorry to echo you.
12:48:
Like most people, it came from both. I grew up in a middle class family that valued education, hard work, and honesty and I realize how lucky that makes me. We are probasbly in agreement about many things. Still there is an unfortunate tendency among those who are successful to give themselves far too much credit.
I am sure we are in agreeance on many things. I realize that I was lucky enough to grow up around successful people that provided excellent guidance. However, I, like the GM CEO's, will not de-value myself and accept less than the market driven salary for my services because of my background, just as I wouldn't expect someone to ask for a higher salary if they overcame the obstacle of coming from a poor family. Case in point, where you came from isn't as important as the services you provide for your salary.
I believe if anyone at GM is earning their salary, it is the CEO and upper management. His salary is determined upon completely capitalist principles. If he can make more somewher else, he leaves. If he doesn't perform, the board of directors fires him. If they don't, the shareholders fire the board of directors. Nowhere in that formula does anyone worry about his well-being, his health insurance, his retirement, etc. The only factor considered is if he is meeting expectations for what the company is paying.
10:31 AM - Not much attention to detail! Who's the loser?
I don't give a damn how good you think you are. There's no person anywhere that deserves some of the money CEOs get.
However the good thing is that those people will answer to screwing over their brothers and sisters one day.
I have no desire to be rich. I have known many many very wealthy people. They all share one thing in common. Greed! Seems like they can never get enough and they will do about any thing to get more.
I just don't want to be a person like that. My goal is just being comfortable.
Whene it comes to sacrificing character; I pass.
do you think we should eliminate all unions.....firefighters, police, teachers, state employees, electrians, carpenters, and etc......because if we eliminate all unions, then all those jobs will be filled immediately with mexicans.....
No surprise at most of these comments: The South has been trying to break Unions since 1860.
The middle class is the backbone of the U.S. My husband is union so I speak with some true knowledge of union. The union is not a money hungry machine like some people think. Granted the union has had dark moments, but those are minimal when one thinks of the good that has come from unions. Even those of you who hate unions benefit everyday you work in some form or fashion and you are too cheap and cowardly to stand up with fellow workers because deep down you are afraid of losing you livelihood and that is the true power of you bosses. They can ruin your life at any whim that pleases them. You could be fired because the new supervisor just doesn't like you. You may be an ace worker, but that won't help you keep your job. Without the unions, none of us would have the workplace we have today. What is happening is a reversal in history. As a working class we have become intimindated by "the boss and our class is shrinking by the minute." I feel what we have here is a moral issue versus "survival of the fittest." What good is any product that can only be profitable based on the poverty of others??? LJM it is easy for you to be so judgemental of families that struggle to survive. Does it make you feel better that the only way for you to get your China made products comes at the expense of another person both in the US and China? You have a cold heart and it is people like you that hurt our country. I don't think you have ever worked in a union shop or you would not be speaking so ill of the union. You are an outsider who doesn't realize that you are making basically a fool of yourself because you don't speak from experience and knowledge. You are just repeating what big business wants you to think. You my friend are a good puppet without an original thought!!!!!
PBB
unions are like minimum wage, they force an employer to pay an employee so much they half to raise the price of there product. raise minimum wage to $20 an hour you get a $18.50 happy meal.give the uaw a raise you get a 40k pu truck worth 15k. And those of us who choose not to follow the union, those of us that can make our money without a union are punished with outrageous prices on union products!
sounds like which came first the chicken or the egg :-)
PBB
When we let our jobs leave this country, we messed up the balance of earnings verses expenditure. Unions aren't the problem, the government, and our own greed with wanting more "stuff" is why we are going through this econmonic adjustment. A new American Economy will exist very different from the economy of our ancestors. Our working environment will change as well. Then our quality of life will change.
PBB
3:22
Surley you gest. No one worries about his pension, his health care? Of course they do which is why he has bonuses, defered compensation arrangements, stock options and a host of other perks. You read again and again about CEO's whose companies are losing money and whose stock value is in the toilet being given millions of dollars in severence pay and back dated stock options. Those who have the gold make the rules.
PBB, you say I am a coward because i don't belong to a union. I say standing on my own two feet and making rational, independent decisions about the value and worth of my skill set is anything but cowardly. If I am not getting paid enough, I will find another job. If I don't do what I am paid to do, I will be replaced. I don't send the lynch mob to bat for me to hold the company hostage and force them to pay more than I am worth.
I think the unions had their place when they were formed, but have outworn their welcome and are now doing more harm than good. The demands they are making will eventually put GM out of business. A company cannot guarantee job security. If there is a competitive edge to be taken, whether with automation or foreign labor, the company owes it to its stockholders to take full advantage.
The unions still seem to hold the misconception that the jobs belong to the employees. The job belongs to the employer to sell to whomever will do the best job for the cheapest price. When a union artificially sets a minimum amount of compensation on the labor of its members, it creates a shortage of labor and leads to inflation, which is robbing us all of our wealth.
7:09, obviously the CEO's do deserve their salaries for what they do. If they didn't, the board of directors wouldn't approve them.
By saying noone worried about it, I didn't mean a CEO doesn't receive these benefits. I meant to say that when it comes time to fire them, no moral factors play a role, as it should be with all employees. It was worded badly. Sorry.
JAZMAN is not a union member!
after reading some of these post no wonder the real world has passed barnesville and lamar county by,the mentality of the work force here just makes you want to puke,keep that union state of mind and thought process and maybe a factory or plant will locate here some day and you can get a job on the 3rd shift so you and your union pals can sit around drunk all day smoking your marlboro's talking about "if dale was still alive we'd all be better off" and how the people that busted their butts and got an education worked hard and stayed away from the booze long enough to make it in life are just that way because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouths
Honey, please don't try and tell me how grand the unions are. I too have first hand knowledge of how they operate. The union was always like a cuss word in my family.
Not only were my grandparents coal miners but my daddy owned is own crane business in Florida and he would have to bring a big stick with him just to protect himself against the union. For years the unions followed him on different jobs trying to unionize him, he could not tell you how often he was picketed. My parents were part of the movement for the “Right to Work” in Florida. They said the only real protection they had was the Small Business Association.
One of his friends owned another crane business in town and the union guys overturned his crane, when he went back to get the crane, they told him he could not get the crane until the union guys picked it up….Dad’s friend stuck a .45 in the front of his pants and went right in and got his crane. After that they kind of avoided him for the most part.
I have always heard about when he worked with other union crane companies, they always reminded me of those jokes...How many Pollocks does it take to screw in a light bulb? My daddy would tell me about how many people it took to do the same job he did all by himself. Unions would have one man that drove the crane, another man would set it up for work, if something went wrong it took another man to make repairs, and don’t forget all thug bosses they had working behind “the union”. They would show up 2-3 hours late on the job and were proud of it.
One job he went on the contractor asked one of the union guys to ask the union operator to swing over a certain direction. The guy told him “It’s not my job”
Unions were responsible for putting the A&P Grocery store chain out of business, they chose to close their doors than to go union and let’s not all forget the Publix in Jonesboro!
Union jobs are one step up from welfare, but they at least try and show up to do a little bit of work.
What I am stressing is the RIGHT TO WORK, and unions do not give a person the right to work. If they had their way there would be no small businesses, we would all be “unionized” which to me sounds awfully lot like socialism/communism.
If everyone would like to see a great example of how unions operate, just look at our wonderful school systems! (What a Joke)
JAK
No moral factors should be involved...there can be no better explaination of why socialism and communism attract so many people.
Communisum and socialism start with things like (FREE HEALTH CARE) there is no sutch thing! People want the gov. to give them every thing,free health care,free school,free school supplys,free school food,for the poor is a good thing. But now a daze you got women who have 3 or 4 children they cant even controll mutch less pay for and they blame the gov., the school,the teachers, and society in general because they wont raise there basturd children for them....... Why is crime going up?
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