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Friday, June 01, 2007
Atlanta TB traveler
his new bride tests negative, family tests negative, father in-law has phd in TB research... CDC hits panic button - why?
18 comments:
Anonymous
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you are guilty of not keeping everyone informed except for what you want to tell em aint you scoop
CDC panicked because TB is a highly contagious disease which killed over 2 million last year. The Atlanta traveler has a strain that is highly resistant to treatment & authorities fear will make this once again an incurable disease. Symptoms include fever, weight loss, coughing up blood , night sweats and death.
There need to be stricter laws preventing such infected people in any public place.
I am glad the CDC pressed the panic button. This person is a no class dude. He should have considered all other persons he would expose. He didnt, he apparantly was too selfish to care. This is a stran that appears tough for the medical profession to control. Persons with these type illness should be put into quarantine, once they are found to have the disease, so protection for the general population should take place. Some persons forget the havoc of Typhoid Mary.
Actually, there may be a different reason for the panic button. In last week's AJC (Atlanta Journal Constitution) there was an article citing that the CDC had several million dollar jets that were not being used and it was a waste of millions of dollars of taxpayers money. This TB deal was a great story to shift focus and it created the need for those million dollar jets sitting around. I am not saying this is 100% true or a conspiracy theory but the timing of it all sure does seem fishy.
I think the guy was not informed of the seriousness of his condition. While he was overseas the word got through to him and they told him to stay put, but they didn't say they're comin' to get him either. I would have freaked out too, would I have gotten on a plane afterwords- not sure. I would defend this guy before I fed him to the wolves. If it was Michael Vick, I would stone him to death and feed him to pit-bulls, that low down disgrace of a quarterback, and we have yet to quarantine his ass! He's had a bad case of stupid since he was drafted! Rev.MJB
The problem isn't this ignorant traveler, but the fact the system allowed him to go from Italy (when he was first confronted with quarantine) to the Czech republic, then on to Canada & back to the US.
anon 8:36 i think i may to agree with you on that one... i totally agree anon 3:44, even though he was restricted from flight he was still allowed to cross the border in a car... makes no sense, if i was a passenger on any of those flights i would definitely be looking at some sort of restitution from that man, think about if you had a sick child or you yourself was sick or even a ail elderly, they would be the first to be affected cause their immune system is so weak. that would piss me off to the tee, he needs to be charged with some crime for doing that, that is just wrong!
Let's see. First there's the guy that shut down the Atlanta airport by running from security because he didn't want to miss his flight to the UGA game. Then there's the runaway bride. And now this jerk who seems to think that his own wants supercede others' rights not to be infected with a deadly disease. I think the question shouldn't be whether the CDC over-reacted. Rather, why does Atlanta breed so many selfish, foolish, entitled anal sphincters?
I feel sorry for the guy...he had his wedding and honeymoon all planed. Then found out he has a possibly fatal disease...bummer! He still shouldnt have traveled and risked exposing innocent people.
Get out those frequent flyer miles, don't let'em expire before you do:->
1: N Engl J Med. 1996 Apr 11;334(15):933-8.? Links Comment in: N Engl J Med. 1996 Apr 11;334(15):981-2. N Engl J Med. 1996 Aug 29;335(9):675; author reply 675-6.
Transmission of multidrug-resistant Mycobacterium tuberculosis during a long airplane flight. Kenyon TA, Valway SE, Ihle WW, Onorato IM, Castro KG.
Epidemiology Program Office, National Center for HIV, STD, and TB Prevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, GA 30333, USA. BACKGROUND. In April 1994, a passenger with infectious multi-drug resistant tuberculosis traveled on commercial-airline flights from Honolulu to Chicago and from Chicago to Baltimore and returned one month later. We sought to determine whether she had infected any of her contacts on this extensive trip. METHODS. Passengers and crew were identified from airline records and were notified of their exposure, asked to complete a questionnaire, and screened by tuberculin skin tests. RESULTS. Of the 925 people on the airplanes, 802 (86.7 percent) responded. All 11 contacts with positive tuberculin skin tests who were on the April flights and 2 of 3 contacts with positive tests who were on the Baltimore-to-Chicago flight in May had other risk factors for tuberculosis. More contacts on the final, 8.75-hour flight from Chicago to Honolulu had positive skin tests than those on the other three flights (6 percent, as compared with 2.3, 3.8, and 2.8 percent). Of 15 contacts with positive tests on the May flight from Chicago to Honolulu, 6 (4 with skin-test conversion) had no other risk factors; all 6 had sat in the same section of the plane as the index patient (P=0.001). Passengers seated within two rows of the index patient were more likely to have positive tuberculin skin tests than those in the rest of the section (4 of 13, or 30.8 percent, vs. 2 of 55, or 3.6 percent; rate ratio, 8.5; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.7 to 41.3; P=0.01). CONCLUSIONS. The transmission of Mycobacterium tuberculosis that we describe aboard a commercial aircraft involved a highly infectious passenger, a long flight, and close proximity of contacts to the index patient.
WDM said: "Actually, there may be a different reason for the panic button. In last week's AJC (Atlanta Journal Constitution) there was an article citing that the CDC had several million dollar jets that were not being used and it was a waste of millions of dollars of taxpayers money. This TB deal was a great story to shift focus and it created the need for those million dollar jets sitting around. "
I view things differently. I expect people to have common sense and do what is the right and honest to do, not what they can get away with. This guy thought he could get away with exposing the public, no matter how small the risk, to something that would really hurt someone else.
The ag authority thought they could get away with collecting money based on a promise and shift the land and money from the county into Barnesville.
I see a distinct parallel. Disrepect for what is the right thing to do. Instead some people like to get away with doing what ever they can regadless of how it potentially impacts others.
The USA needs to move away from acting like that at all levels, fdrom the top right down to the individual.
He should be charged with criminal negligence, seeing as to how he ignored the recommendations of the doctors not to travel. He choose to do so and he should pay for ignoring the warnings. He was just down right irresponsible.
18 comments:
you are guilty of not keeping everyone informed except for what you want to tell em aint you scoop
Sounds like Pop may have objected...
8:36:
What the heck are you talking about?
CDC panicked because TB is a highly contagious disease which killed over 2 million last year. The Atlanta traveler has a strain that is highly resistant to treatment & authorities fear will make this once again an incurable disease. Symptoms include fever, weight loss, coughing up blood , night sweats and death.
There need to be stricter laws preventing such infected people in any public place.
According to several sources, Pop (in law) is probably the one who alerted the CDC to the fact that his infected son-in-law was travelling
I am glad the CDC pressed the panic button. This person is a no class dude. He should have considered all other persons he would expose. He didnt, he apparantly was too selfish to care.
This is a stran that appears tough for the medical profession to control. Persons with these type illness should be put into quarantine, once they are found to have the disease, so protection for the general population should take place.
Some persons forget the havoc of Typhoid Mary.
Actually, there may be a different reason for the panic button. In last week's AJC (Atlanta Journal Constitution) there was an article citing that the CDC had several million dollar jets that were not being used and it was a waste of millions of dollars of taxpayers money. This TB deal was a great story to shift focus and it created the need for those million dollar jets sitting around. I am not saying this is 100% true or a conspiracy theory but the timing of it all sure does seem fishy.
I also saw that article WDM, I agree with you...how convenient...
ROME
With a budget of just under $9 billion, a few million on planes is pocket change. Besides, they just used one to move this jerk to Colorado.
I think the guy was not informed of the seriousness of his condition. While he was overseas the word got through to him and they told him to stay put, but they didn't say they're comin' to get him either. I would have freaked out too, would I have gotten on a plane afterwords- not sure. I would defend this guy before I fed him to the wolves. If it was Michael Vick, I would stone him to death and feed him to pit-bulls, that low down disgrace of a quarterback, and we have yet to quarantine his ass! He's had a bad case of stupid since he was drafted!
Rev.MJB
The problem isn't this ignorant traveler, but the fact the system allowed him to go from Italy (when he was first confronted with quarantine) to the Czech republic, then on to Canada & back to the US.
Just think what disease laden terrorist could do!
anon 8:36 i think i may to agree with you on that one...
i totally agree anon 3:44, even though he was restricted from flight he was still allowed to cross the border in a car...
makes no sense, if i was a passenger on any of those flights i would definitely be looking at some sort of restitution from that man, think about if you had a sick child or you yourself was sick or even a ail elderly, they would be the first to be affected cause their immune system is so weak. that would piss me off to the tee, he needs to be charged with some crime for doing that, that is just wrong!
Let's see. First there's the guy that shut down the Atlanta airport by running from security because he didn't want to miss his flight to the UGA game. Then there's the runaway bride. And now this jerk who seems to think that his own wants supercede others' rights not to be infected with a deadly disease. I think the question shouldn't be whether the CDC over-reacted. Rather, why does Atlanta breed so many selfish, foolish, entitled anal sphincters?
I feel sorry for the guy...he had his wedding and honeymoon all planed. Then found out he has a possibly fatal disease...bummer! He still shouldnt have traveled and risked exposing innocent people.
Get out those frequent flyer miles, don't let'em expire before you do:->
1: N Engl J Med. 1996 Apr 11;334(15):933-8.? Links
Comment in:
N Engl J Med. 1996 Apr 11;334(15):981-2.
N Engl J Med. 1996 Aug 29;335(9):675; author reply 675-6.
Transmission of multidrug-resistant Mycobacterium tuberculosis during a long airplane flight.
Kenyon TA,
Valway SE,
Ihle WW,
Onorato IM,
Castro KG.
Epidemiology Program Office, National Center for HIV, STD, and TB Prevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, GA 30333, USA.
BACKGROUND. In April 1994, a passenger with infectious multi-drug resistant tuberculosis traveled on commercial-airline flights from Honolulu to Chicago and from Chicago to Baltimore and returned one month later. We sought to determine whether she had infected any of her contacts on this extensive trip. METHODS. Passengers and crew were identified from airline records and were notified of their exposure, asked to complete a questionnaire, and screened by tuberculin skin tests. RESULTS. Of the 925 people on the airplanes, 802 (86.7 percent) responded. All 11 contacts with positive tuberculin skin tests who were on the April flights and 2 of 3 contacts with positive tests who were on the Baltimore-to-Chicago flight in May had other risk factors for tuberculosis. More contacts on the final, 8.75-hour flight from Chicago to Honolulu had positive skin tests than those on the other three flights (6 percent, as compared with 2.3, 3.8, and 2.8 percent). Of 15 contacts with positive tests on the May flight from Chicago to Honolulu, 6 (4 with skin-test conversion) had no other risk factors; all 6 had sat in the same section of the plane as the index patient (P=0.001). Passengers seated within two rows of the index patient were more likely to have positive tuberculin skin tests than those in the rest of the section (4 of 13, or 30.8 percent, vs. 2 of 55, or 3.6 percent; rate ratio, 8.5; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.7 to 41.3; P=0.01). CONCLUSIONS. The transmission of Mycobacterium tuberculosis that we describe aboard a commercial aircraft involved a highly infectious passenger, a long flight, and close proximity of contacts to the index patient.
PMID: 8596593 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
now this is what i call dedication. most people would stay home if their poots didnt smell right! i was married to one.
POWP
WDM said:
"Actually, there may be a different reason for the panic button. In last week's AJC (Atlanta Journal Constitution) there was an article citing that the CDC had several million dollar jets that were not being used and it was a waste of millions of dollars of taxpayers money. This TB deal was a great story to shift focus and it created the need for those million dollar jets sitting around. "
I view things differently. I expect people to have common sense and do what is the right and honest to do, not what they can get away with. This guy thought he could get away with exposing the public, no matter how small the risk, to something that would really hurt someone else.
The ag authority thought they could get away with collecting money based on a promise and shift the land and money from the county into Barnesville.
I see a distinct parallel. Disrepect for what is the right thing to do. Instead some people like to get away with doing what ever they can regadless of how it potentially impacts others.
The USA needs to move away from acting like that at all levels, fdrom the top right down to the individual.
Regards,
Tom Rauch
He should be charged with criminal negligence, seeing as to how he ignored the recommendations of the doctors not to travel. He choose to do so and he should pay for ignoring the warnings. He was just down right irresponsible.
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